How the GOP really works

…and why we need to change it.

by Thelma Taormina

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Introduction

Here are some emails that will all revolve around Mary Huls and her candidacy for District 129. While I know that many on our list are not in Mary’s district, I want to make certain that our members are clearly aware of how the Republican Party works. They really are NO Different than the Democrats when it comes to trying to ridicule and destroy their opposition…..it does not matter what party affiliation you are.

What follows are: 

  1. The original email from David Fuson
  2. The response to his email from Dale Huls
  3. Greg Aydt’s message to Dale Huls
  4. The response to Fuson’s email from Mary Huls
  5. My response to Fuson, once Mary responded

I hope you will take from all this the EDUCATION of how the Political Parties work and why it is so important that we not only fight the Democrats, but ALSO the Republicans. I can personally attest to the fact that the Republican Party is just as corrupt as the Democratic Party and we all need to understand this if we are to make a change.

I am concerned about splitting the vote as much as the next person, however if we are to weed out this corruption we must roll the dice at some point. We either need to establish a Third Party, devoid of this crap, or we must clean up the Parties as they exist now. I do not have all the answers……that is exactly why we are an Association. We need help and input from everyone so that we can then figure out our course of action. This will not be easy, we know that…..but we must decide how to fight this ever present corruption, not only at the Federal level, but at the State and Local levels also.

Is it any wonder of why we have no clear decent people running for office, when all it takes is a kickoff campaign notice to produce such a hateful, mean and nasty response? This is why good people do not run. We must find a way to stop this kind of personal attack, and let citizens vet the people who choose to run.

I hope you all will read the emails I will be sending you. This to me tells us all exactly WHY our Country is in trouble and has been taken over by self serving individuals with money.

 

1.  The original email from David Fuson

From: David.Fuson
Sent: 9/25/2009 6:46:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time
Subj: RE: Announcement: Mary Huls Campaign Rally Monday Night 9/28

Dear Ms. Huls,

Thank you for your email. I often wonder about folks who blast out emails to huge lists of people they don’t know in the dark of night. We have never had the pleasure of meeting; I thought your email deserved a reply.

I see that you are a candidate to be the Republican nominee, for State Representative, District 129. I appreciate your referring to yourself as a constitutional conservative. As a person who has been politically active for over 18 years, I’m not sure I know what that means. I looked, but I could find no record that you have voted in any Republican Primary election in the past 10 years. We will certainly welcome you as a first time voter in March.

While researching your voting record I was disturbed to find that you voted in the 2008 DEMOCRAT PRIMARY. We always welcome converts and newcomers, but I do believe that you might want to vote in our Party primary a time or two or assist some other person to run for office before you claim to be qualified to be the Party nominee in November election. I’d also like to know which candidate you voted for in that 2008 Democrat Primary, Obama or Hillary. Perhaps I’ll attend your kick-off and ask you directly, why you think that you are Republican after voting DEMOCRAT.

Your email and your website indicate that you “have been very active in the Houston grassroots organizations.” I like that. That is certainly admirable. It is just a shame you haven’t taken any time to be active in the political process. You only voted in 2 of the last 5 General Elections. Also, would you please expound on “very active in the Houston grassroots Elections”, it seems to need a lot of explanation. Additionally, do you have dealing with that Nationally well known group “ACORN”?

Conducting a serious campaigning for public office is hard work, to say nothing of the expense. It seems that your work at Starbucks as a ‘barista’. Let me assure you that Texas politics is a far cry from the idle chatter of those who sit and sip coffee. There is a history of young radicals sitting in coffee shops fomenting political upheaval, but this is not Eastern Europe, its Texas. I look forward to our first meeting, we will have much to discuss about Texas Politics.

David Fuson
Republican Party Precinct Chairman
Precinct 537

 

2.  The response to his email from Dale Huls

From Dale Huls
Sent: 9/25/2009
Subj: Reply to Questions Raised about Mary Huls

Mr. Fuson,

Thank you for your reply to announcement of Mary Huls’ Camapign Rally this coming Monday. It bought quite a smile to my face. Consequently, since I was the one who sent the original announcement, I would like to take the time to answer your questions and concerns. I am adding the original distribution list to this response since they were included in yours and, in fact, they may be interested in our response as well. I am including your earlier reply here to allow people context with my response: (edited see previous email, thelma)

You are quite right when you claim that I sent an email “blast” out to people I don’t even know. Both Mary and I are novices at political campaigns and I sent this out to many of my friends and acquaintances in hopes of generating interest in Mary’s campaign. You were placed on this list because you are a Republican Party Precinct Chairman (Precinct 537). I felt that it was important for all Republican Party precinct chairs in District 129 to know that there is another candidate besides the incumbent running in the 2010 Republican Primary and offer them a chance to come and listen, talk, and question Mary face-to-face so that they can draw their own conclusions regarding whether or not they should support her run for State Representative. This does not seem beyond the pale and we think it is responsible engagement with the Republican Party and the electorate of District 129. While you don’t know Mary – we would like very much for you and others to get to know her.

Now as far as being Democrats. That was what put the smile on my face. While I appreciate your diligence in reviewing the records, I would caution as to the conclusions you may have drawn. We admit to not voting in the Republican primaries during the past 10 years. Like many folks, as long as there was a Republican running in the General Election we were fine with whoever it was and always supported the Party’s candidate. I note that of the approximately 70,000 votes cast in the 2008 general election (District 129) only about 3400 were cast in the 2008 Republican primary. Seems like there are a lot of us who bypass the primaries and still vote Republican in the General Election.

Now since I have brought up the 2008 elections, let me discuss our voting during that primary. Yes, we voted in the democratic primary and caucus! Since Texas is always late to the Presidential selection process, McCain already had the nomination in the bag. Therefore, we participated in Rush Limbaugh’s “Operation Chaos” to go an mess around with the Democrats selection process. Besides we couldn’t pass up the opportunity to see what it would be like to be a democrat and vote twice on the same day without going to jail (something republicans never experience). In fact, the Democrats at the caucus asked if we would like to be delegates, for which we politely declined (our hypocrisy only goes so far).

Yes, you don’t know us, but if you did, you would know and everyone would tell you that Mary and Dale are conservative in their principles, values, and of course, their politics. Please come out and talk to Tracy Miller and other conservative grassroots people and find out for yourself if we are real or not. (By the way, I did vote for Obummer because I had waited 10 damn years to vote against Hillary had finally got the chance to do so. maybe it wasn’t the smartest thing to do but it sure felt good at the time.)

Again, since we are now talking parties, let me answer another “question” of yours. You claim to be politically active for 18 years but you don’t know what a “consitutional conservative” is. Mary has not once in all the rallys, events, and meetings she has been to needed to tell the grassroots folks we associate with what a “consitutional conservative” is. However, if you truly don’t know, let me take this as a teachable moment and enlighten you.

A “Consitutional Conservative” is someone who believes that the founders through either historical genius or more likely divine providence developed and provided this country with a system of government that recognized inalienable rights and was based on “individual” freedom and liberty. They provided a government to protect and support those rights and freedoms through a concept of limited government and strong checks and balances to ensure that natural tendencies of governments to control and ultimately oppress the citizentry was not realized. Everyone thinks they know what these checks and balances are: the Executive Branch, the Legislative Branch, and the Judicial Branch were given specific limited roles in government and were intended to check the excesses of anyone branch that sought to exceed their constitutional role.

However, the original system of checks and balances went much deeper than that simplistic view. The founders also intended that the States be a check on the General (Federal) government and the Feds were to be a check on the States in their turn. Also within the Congress, a system of checks and balances was built that ensured that the House (popularily elected) representated the peoples’ concerns and the Senate (selected by State Legislatures) represented the interests of the States (who in turn had their legislatures voted by the people). However, this beautiful system of government has been badly damaged by 3 seminal events (in my opinion):

  • First, with the passage of the 16th Amendment, the Federal government was legally authorized to confiscate taxes directly from individuals without having to go through the States (original reason for the census) thereby weakening the positions of the States with respect to leverage over the Federal Government;
  • Secondly, with the passage of the 17th Amendment, the Senate was elected by popular vote (same as the House) which greatly weakened the direct influence of the States in the Federal Government since the House and Senate were for the first time representing AND SEEKING APPROVAL of the same constitutents with disregard to State Legislatures;
  • and finally, the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank whereby Congress abbrogated their consititutional duties and responsibilities to an agency outside of the consitutional framework of government by legislative dictate.

Consitutional conservatives recognize these original checks and balances and the rationale for limited government. You see them at 912 viewing parties, you meet them at the tea parties, these people are the ones calling their elected representatives and demanding that they stop spending and passing legislation they don’t even read. Constitutional consevatives look at government through the prism of the constitution’s original intent. For Mary, this means pushing back on unconstitutional federal mandates, laws, and regulations by a strong state governement willing to stand up to an increasingly out of control and oppressive federal government. This means strong states rights and Texas Sovereignty. This means applying constitutional principles down to the state and local level and letting people solve their problems at the lowest possible levels with out government interference. That sir, is what we descibe as a “constitutional conservative.” You may not find a definition in a dictionary, but you will find it in the pages of the Constitution of the United States of America!

David, you may be happy with the same guy who has been representing you for the last 10 years. If you like how things are working out for this State, keep him. We think its time for a change – not Obama change – but a refounding of this country back to its original principles and values. We believe that this refounding starts in the States (the State Legislature, the Governor’s Office, the school boards, the county commission, and mayors). For too long we have thought that it was about which party was in charge. I know we did – that’s why we were content with a Republican in office…any republican would do.

However, in the last year, through our own activism and education, we have come to understand that the battle for our State and our country is not between the two parties – but between two idealologies. The idealologies are “progressivism” and “conservatism”. The progressive agenda is being pushed by both parties to greater or lesser degrees but it is still being pushed. McCain, Snow, Collins, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, and the vast majority of the republicans are progressives. They compromise, collaborate, and hope to achieve bipartisan solutions without once ever asking the fundamental question “Is it consitutional?” Just looking over John Davis’ voting record from the 2008 session shows that he certainly was working for “social and environmental justice” with his democratic colleagues on more than one occasion. Mary just thinks that a republican should be a full-time conservative instead of a part-time RINO.

Finally, let me defend my wife’s job as a Starbucks “barista”. She typically gets up at 4am in order to be to work at 5am. She is usually on her feet for four hours straight before she gets her first 10 min break. She is not hanging out sipping coffee with young radicals. She is making and serving coffee with a smile and a hello to people from all walks of life. I don’t want to shock you too badly but even some conservatives are addicted to Starbucks! Mary is a working woman like most people in the district. She holds down a job, she volunteers at our daughters High School, active in conservative grassroots movement, and is running a campaign for State office. She should not be belittled – this type of citizen should be celebrated. These are the kinds of folks we want representing us. We know that without volunteers, donations, and support among the decent people in this district who don’t like what they see in Washington and Austin we probably don’t stand a chance. But I know if people get to know Mary and understand that she wants to be a “citizen legislator” to work hard for our principles, values, and problems, then I know she will have a chance.

Here is meeting details for Mary’s Campaign Rally this coming Monday:

Mario’s Flying Pizza & Italian Restaurant
618 W. NASA Parkway
Webster, TX 77598
281-332-2202

Dale Huls
Camapign Manager for Mary Huls
www.ElectMaryHuls.com

 

3.  Greg Aydt’s message to Dale Huls

Dale, just a quick note from over here in Precinct 333 (Seabrook).

Based upon your two missives, I’d like to suggest that you not spend too much at your wife’s little soiree. Her campaign isn’t going anywhere. Let me detail why.

1) It is bad form to go from having no significant involvement with the GOP to voting in the Democrat primary to seeking the GOP nomination. Mary is, based upon this record, an unknown quantity to most of us who have been active for years.

2) Taking a condescending tone towards long-time activists who quiz you on the meaning of a phrase you used in your original letter is also not a way to earn good will from those you want to have work for and endorse your wife. The phrase “constitutional conservative”, which you repeatedly misspell, can have a number of meanings, which is why I had the same question David Fuson did (despite having been an active Republican since cut my political teeth on Reagan’s first presidential campaign and having a graduate level degree in Political Science). To respond to such a reasonable question (designed to draw out your wife’s views and platform) with the level of snark contained in your answer was a major error that certainly put me off — as well as a number of other folks with whom I have spoken today.

3) I suspect you lost a lot of us with your statement that McCain, Snow, Collins, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, and the vast majority of the republicans are not proper conservatives. I dare say that McCain, Hutchison, and a great many of those you label “progressives” have done more in the last six months to advance conservative goals and policies than you and your wife — combined — have managed to accomplish towards that end in the full span of your lives thus far. I may have issues with positions taken by each and every member of the GOP caucus in both houses of Congress and both houses of the Texas Legislature, but I would not make such a blanket dismissal those individuals as being little better than the Democrats.

4) Campaigns that expect to be taken seriously don’t send out typo-ridden emails that are supposed to be serious expositions of the candidate’s views.

Sadly, these four points make it unnecessary for me to give any serious consideration to the policy positions you and your wife espouse or their underlying philosophy. It is clear to me that your wife is not a candidate who merits being taken seriously, and her candidacy is a rather pathetic joke — at least in part because you have made it so with these two emails.

Oh, and before you attack me as a supporter of John Davis, think again. I’m the guy who called upon him to withdraw from the GOP primary last time around because of the ethical issues that were (and, in my eyes, still are) hovering about him. I’m not planning on supporting him in the 2010 primary, and am hoping that a strong candidate will step forward to take the nomination from him. However, I’d take him over your wife in a heartbeat, secure in the knowledge that he is a better candidate than she is in terms of having a chance of winning the general election so that we end up with a legislator whose views more or less approximate those of the voters of this district.

Greg Aydt
GOP Precinct Chair
Precinct 333
Seabrook, TX

 

4.  The response to Fuson’s email from Mary Huls

9/25/2009

Mr. Fuson and Aydt;

I would like to personally address this chain of e-mails and some of the statements that I feel deserve my personal clarification.

I am a grassroots candidate; a “Constitutional Conservative Republican” candidate in the primary election. You both seem to have a problem with the fact that I am an unknown in the Harris County GOP circles. Alas, that is part of what makes me grassroots. I am part of the millions of American citizens that have been the silent majority for far too long. We see our country being transformed into
something we don’t recognize as America any longer. However, we have awakened from our busy lives, taken time to notice what is really happening on a local, state and national level, educated ourselves,
and have taken to the streets, airwaves, and internet. We are frightened for our country, our future, and for our children and grandchildren. I was born a free American, and that is how I intend to die.

For me, a “Constitutional Conservative” is one that views legislation through the prism of the Constitution, both for the state and national level. The government has usurped their power and have set us on a path to a blend of Marxism, Fascism, and Socialism. I do not believe that President Obama has been solely responsible for this, but instead the process has been deliberate since the turn of the 20th century. The “Progressives” have been quite patient in their vision for a transformed America. Today I see no checks and balances remaining…except for the American citizens. It is time to return to the founders view of our government. They believed in citizens volunteering to leave their jobs to represent their neighbors, then returning to their lives. This modern notion of career politicians has been detrimental to our society. I believe one or two terms is enough time to serve; then step aside for another citizen legislator. Any longer than that and you begin to serve special interests rather than
constituents.

I am an active member of the Houston and Friendswood 912 Project groups. I am active in the Houston Tea Party Society, but also have recently discovered the Clear Lake Tea Party. As a member of these
groups, I have rediscovered the original intent of the founders of this magnificent nation. I have researched how we arrived at the state we are in and how we can take this country back and re-establish our Republic.

Although I feel the question regarding “ACORN” does not deserve a response, I will give you one. Not NO, but HELL NO!

I have attended Clear Lake GOP meetings these past few months. I was in attendance at a meeting where the speaker stated (words to the effect) that now the Republican Party is grassroots. I say that is not a true statement, and personally I was offended. I believe the old guard of the Republican Party is part of the problem. They are not responsive to constituents in all levels of the government, yet they continually call me asking for donations. Now, do I think that means the Republican Party is not worth saving? No. But by the same token, I believe they must return to their roots; to the values of Conservatives – the citizens that voted for them! We have found ourselves disappointed time and time again once the elected official takes office and then compromises away those same values.

I think someone that has been active as a precinct chair – or active in a party for many years is certainly political, but not necessarily part of the grassroots movement that is sweeping this country in 2009.

Let me say this: in America we are still free to vote in any way we deem appropriate. It doesn’t make us any less Republican or Democrat. It makes us educated, informed, and involved in the process. John McCain had already won the Republican nomination by the time the Texas primary rolled around. I knew my vote would not effect that. I personally was curious about the caucus process that was part of the Democrat primary.

It is okay for us to disagree on whether we think McCain, Snow, Hutchinson, Collins, Spector are/were good Republicans. I will give McCain praise for his strong stance on the military.

As far as my voting record of 2 out of the last 5 general elections, please note that I did not live in Texas prior to late 2004.

Although I find your comments about my job condescending, I will take the high road. I worked from 1983 – 2007 as a Financial Administrator for university research grants. I simply wanted more freedom to be available for my step-daughter’s activities and other interests. I see no reason to apologize to anyone for that personal decision.

As for my campaign manager’s typing skills – he has been properly punished and chastised for not using spell check. However, I proudly stand by my husband.

I personally invite you to come to my event Monday evening. If that is not possible, I would be happy to meet with you on a one-to-one basis. I would enjoy the pleasure of meeting you.

One thing that I will apologize for is the late hour of this e-mail. Tonight was Clear Brook’s Homecoming and we have been loading and unloading band equipment.

Sincerely,
Mary Huls

GS

I am in full support of backing candidates who possess these common-sense qualities versus the “political establishment” qualifications of those who have participated in the near ruin of our nation. I believe the GOP has much to learn if they think the grass-roots movement taking place across America is squarely in their corner.

 

5.  My response to Fuson, once Mary responded

Mr. Fuson and Aydt,

I have remained silent to date regarding this issue as I saw this as something I felt Mary Huls needed to address. Now that she has done so, I feel I can add my view without stepping in to speak for her.

I do have to say that people like you never cease to amaze me! I wonder just where you get this crazy idea that the Republican Party is anywhere near the hearts and minds of the American People. You have had your chance to prove to us that your Party would represent the People of this Nation……You all have failed miserably to do so. The Republican Party has sold us out just as badly as the Democratic Party has. You no longer represent us and our values, you all represent yourselves, your interests and YOUR Party.

I can guarantee that you have never seen my name before now, just as you had not seen Mary’s. You can check all my voting records if you wish, but be sure to check on a National level as I, along with Mary, I am not a lifelong Texan.

You, along with all your “political” associates need to come to the understanding that We The People have had enough of the games you play, and your quest for power and control. I have been involved in politics as a Republican. I ran for office in Upstate NY and I KNOW what your Party is like at the very, very local level. I KNOW how corrupt your Party is and I am certain that the Democratic Party is no different. So when you spew your horrid facts about how you have been involved for 18 years, that is not something that reassures me one bit about your values. The games played by BOTH Parties are about to end. You have let us down, but moreover you have let the Human Race down by not standing by the values of this country and it’s Founding Fathers.

What you need to understand…..or if we are lucky, you will choose to ignore……is that We the everyday Americans finally have caught on to the fact that you really do not have the moral integrity to keep the American Dream alive. You and the Democratic Party would prefer we all go back to sleep and let you make your deals. Guess what……the party for all of you is over.

As with Mary, Dale and many others I will die to restore this Country to its founding principles before I will let any of you sell us short. Mary has been and continues to be a very loyal, honest and courageous grassroots CONSERVATIVE…….What really bothered me in your first email was not so much the attacks on Mary, as I knew she could counter all you claimed….but the fact that for some reason you think that being a Conservative means you are automatically a Republican. We will change THAT view as it is the word “Republican” that made the word “Conservative” a “dirty” word in our Society. We are out to FIX that misconception.

NO PARTY owns Us! We are free Independent Individuals who are blessed to call ourselves American. We are not owned by ANYONE, ANY GROUP, OR ANY PARTY!!!!!!! Get used to this reaction. You may have experience of 18 years in the Political Arena, however you are in for a new type of political fight! You along with most politicians still do not get it, maybe you never will, you have sold us out for way too long and we are Americans FIRST, we will restore this Country one political seat at a time. Wake up, you are up against a more formidable force than the Democrats this time, you are up against “We The People”!

One last thing I will add here to Mr Fuson,

I would like to personally thank you for sending your email so publicly. You have given us the most useful weapon in our fight to restore this Country, we will be happy to spread to every person we can your true outlook on who we grassroots people are, and how it is the Republican Party works. You have proven yourself and your Party to be no different than the Democrats. Any possibility that your recall “Joe the Plumber”? Seems to me that you and yours will stoop to the same type of smear tactics that the Democrats used on him. And we should listen to you? Why?

God Bless & Protect Our Country
and Our Constitution,
Thelma Taormina
Founder We The People
Are The 9-12 Association, Inc.
thelma@912membersusa.com
www.912membersusa.com
www.wesurroundthemhouston.com
281-796-3577 Cell

27 Responses to “How the GOP really works”

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  2. Alan Daves Says:

    Thelma…you’re a great American! And I’m so mad at Fusion/Aydt I could scream! They’re part of the problem!!! I tore up my Republican voter registration when McCain became the nominee, although I held my nose and voted for Palin…not McCain…because there is not a dime’s worth of difference between Obama & McCain!!! The Republican Party has deserted me…a 67 year old Reagan “constitutional conservative” who marched in D.C. on 9/12!!! Thanks for your support of David & Mary Huls…and if you’ll send me Fusion’s and Aydt’s email addresses, I will be happy to express my displeasure with them.

  3. Marvin Watts Says:

    This is really sad, this is why the Republicans won’t win any elections anytime soon. Did not their candidate (John McCain) lose. Why try that strategy again. I wish Mary all the best and will pray for her. We need more people who understand what original intent means.

  4. Chris Boyle Says:

    This discussion is exactly how I feel. I have been trying to explain this to some members of the Republican Party in Fayette County and now I am forwarding your article to the Chairman of the Republican Party and to the President of the Republican Women. I hope they will read it. Maybe now they will understand why I believe that when one of our local Republicans invites the Liberal Democrat, Congressman Lloyd Doggett, into their home I call him a RINO.

  5. Dave Nalle Says:

    Amusing stuff. Everyone involved in this exchange is displaying remarkable arrogance and making basic mistakes in dealing with the other parties, which are exactly what perpetuates the legitimate problems which are raised in this exchange.

    Fuson is right that Mary Huls is basically wasting her time and money and the time of the voters in seeking this congressional nomination. She lacks the experience, qualifications and (clearly from this exchange) the temperament to be a viable candidate. This does not mean that the incumbent should not be challenged, but the challenge ought to come from someone with the experience and policial acumen to run an effective campaign. A person who cannot BEAT an incumbent isn’t qualified to replace that incumbent in office.

    In addition, because she has shown no loyalty or even interest in the Republican party in the past, why should she expect the party to show an interest in or support her? It’s a political party, not some sort of support group for politicial malcontents.

    But the other side is also right that the GOP has made poor use of the grassroots and made serious mistakes in recent years, deviating from their own core principles. I also find it inconceivable that Fuson doesn’t know what a “constitutional conservative” is. I have to think he was being sarcastic, because if he’s a Precinct Chair and actively involved in the party he ought to be more aware of the grassroots and the various interest groups within the party or loosely allied with the party, plus the term is fairly self explanatory.

    But look. Long time GOPers are going to have to learn to work with enthusiastic grassroots activists and folks like Mary are also going to have to learn how to work with people like David Fuson if they want to achieve their goals. Alienating the precinct chairs in your district when you’re running for office is a sure way to end up going nowhere. Even if Mary sees David as part of the problem rather than part of the solution, if she wants to succeed as a Republican candidate then she needs to find a way to work with him.

    If you want to run as a Republican you have to work with the party as it exists before you can change it. If you lack the political skills to do that then you lack the skills to be a real candidate for office. And if you’re just unwilling to find common ground with people who may have campaigned for McCain last year just because he was the GOP nominee, then you shouldn’t be running in the Republican party and would be better off starting a 3rd party or running as an independent or perhaps running with the LP.

    Dave

    • Thelma Taormina Says:

      Dave,

      I am wondering if you really took the time to read all the emails included here. I ask because you seem to have overlooked the fact that Mary Hul’s reply to both these men was extremely on point and she did not alienate either one of them. She stuck with the facts and answered the questions raised. While she may not have your view of experience with the political system, it does not mean she does not have the experience that We The People are looking for. It amazes me how typical politicians are missing the point. If we see one within the system currently who is working on our behalf we will continue to support them. If not then we are willing to take a chance on those people who are willing to represent us on the basis of the founding principles. We can no longer accept the status quo. The sooner the political powers that be realize this, the faster we will change this country into the one it was meant to be.

      Thelma Taormina

  6. ramparts360 Says:

    David Fuson david.fuson@sbcglobal.net

    Greg Aydt rhymeswithright@gmail.com

  7. Vickey Grieger Says:

    You are absolutely right Chris! It’s the old “swallow a camel and choke on a knat” syndrome. I think we should all keep a can of flea spray handy. Didn’t we just have a meeting a while back in which several Republican women got up and gave moving and motivational speeches concerning voting your beliefs, values and morals rather than voting for those who lie down with the dogs? And didn’t that meeting end with a flea-bitten plea by a certain person to not protest Doggett and to not have any of those silly old tea parties? And then we wonder why we can’t get more people into the Republican party? I know why. We have to have a party that stands up for what it believes in rather than either rolling over and playing dead when the wolf appears at the door or licking the hand that throws it a bone once in a while.

  8. Dale Huls Says:

    To Dave Nalle,

    Could you please send me the qualifications form and checklist needed to run as a State Represenative in the Republican Party. I seem to have misplaced my copies of that. And as for the statement “the challenge ought to come from someone with the experience and policial acumen to run an effective campaign. A person who cannot BEAT an incumbent isn’t qualified to replace that incumbent in office”, who would that be? A lawyer, a judge, a corporate CEO? Guess us poor working stiffs shouldn’t even try. The only reason Mary may not suceed is because of lack of funding – not lack of message. Furthermore, it will not be because she was outspent by her opponent, it will be because she didn’t have the resources to get her message out. You say “the GOP has made poor use of the grassroots.” We’ll let me tell you that the grassroots aren’t here to be used by any political party. Indeed, it is our opinion that we should use the Republican Party to our advantage by running in your primaries we are true to our message that it is both political parties that have brought this country to the brink of socialism. Most of the folks I know have always trusted candidates with the R behind their name. Sadly, we no longer believe that is true so we are rising up and putting forth our own candidates no matter how unschooled in politics as usual, no matter their social class or job. We are free Americans and we demand to be let in and have a say regarding our future.

    Common ground, bi-partisan, compromise, collaboration within and without the party is simply a loss for freedom and a win for progressivism everytime. Only with a uncompromising stand on values, principles, and the Consititution can the America people hold the line against eventual tyranny and oppression.

    • Rob Roark Says:

      Watch out on the legal challenge side. The Ron Paul folks got hit with lawsuits in Nueces county and at the State Convention for trying to throw the rules back at them.
      Suggest you work to get people in their precincts that support your wife’s candidacy to run against these chairs. That way they have to work hard to keep their cherished time honored position rather than trying to keep new blood from coursing into the veins of the dying elephant.
      We definitely do not have all the answers, but have gone down this road in Hays and other counties….

  9. Maria Acosta Says:

    Wow Repubs. This is why my family and I are not donating to parties any longer. We will only give money to local candidates going forward. You should also know that all of your fund-raising requests have gone directly in my shredder since last November because of the elitist attitude that you demonstrate so effectively here. Rs you are not winning friends and influencing people. If you don’t take some of the feedback you are receiving to heart, it is going to take a lot longer to right this ship.

  10. Doug Neiford Says:

    Look what working with the existing party infrastructure has gotten us conservatives since Ronaldo Mangus left office: 1) Bill Clinton; 2) “compassionate conservatives” which is another way of saying “progressive” Republicans; 3) loss of both houses of Congress; 4) BHO; 5) the most left-of-center government in 233 years!
    The lessons of the Tea Party’s very existence, its numbers and its energy have been lost-on or willfully ignored by the traditional enemies of conservatism and by the elite and entrenched Republicans. In-fact the outrage over the spinelessness of the Republican party is as much a cause for the existence of Tea Parties as is the outrage over the policies of the current government.
    If the Republican party wishes to survive, it had better sit-up and take notice; THEN EMBRACE THE GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT. That is if the the grassroots movement will tolerate the stench of hugging a corpse.

    • ramparts360 Says:

      The evidence is clear: scrotal weakness in the rep is the cause of suffering for the people. The revolution begins when the victims cease to cooperate with their oppressors and reject those complicit in that tyranny.

  11. Alan Daves Says:

    DITTOS Doug!!!! Well said, and after listening to an impassioned caller today on Rush’s show, all the Rodney “Can’t We All Just Get Along” King Rino’s had better start polishing thier resumes. Fusion, Aydt, and the amused Nalle are part of the problem…arrogant, entrenched elitists who were not in D.C. for the “2 MILLION MOBSTER MARCH” as I was…and felt the groundswell of anger against both parties. Republicans who hold office, with few exceptions (Joe Wilson, R-SC), should be run out of office by novices like Mary Huls.

  12. Alex Fitch Says:

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Alex Fitch
    Date: Sep 30, 2009 3:32 PM
    Subject: Mary Huls
    To: david.fuson@sbcglobal.net
    Cc: rhymeswithright@gmail.com

    1. The original email from David Fuson

    From: David.Fuson
    Sent: 9/25/2009 6:46:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time
    Subj: RE: Announcement: Mary Huls Campaign Rally Monday Night 9/28

    Dear Ms. Huls,

    Thank you for your email. I often wonder about folks who blast out emails to huge lists of people they don’t know in the dark of night. We have never had the pleasure of meeting; I thought your email deserved a reply.

    I see that you are a candidate to be the Republican nominee, for State Representative, District 129. I appreciate your referring to yourself as a constitutional conservative. As a person who has been politically active for over 18 years, I’m not sure I know what that means. I looked, but I could find no record that you have voted in any Republican Primary election in the past 10 years. We will certainly welcome you as a first time voter in March. . .

    It seems that your work at Starbucks as a ‘barista’. Let me assure you that Texas politics is a far cry from the idle chatter of those who sit and sip coffee.

    **************************

    …And so on, very superciliously and sarcastically. “Barista?” (BTW, apostrophes are not fungible with quotation marks) (and if they were, they would properly include your inappropriately placed period)( you forgot to complete your sentence in your gleeful putdown of a working woman)

    You and Greg Aydt have furthered our education in local politics. My wife tried to contact the Lavaca County Republican committee chairman many times to get involved in the local GOP effort, to no avail, as did I. You boys apparently think the GOP is your personal property, and I have decided that you are right.

    The over one thousand dollars I sent to McCain and other PACs in anticipation of the last election was wasted, and my money will from now on go strictly to the National Rifle Association and military relief causes. I have been a Republican since I voted for Goldwater, but no more. Use your own money from now on.

    Alex Fitch
    Hallettsville

  13. Dale Huls Says:

    Rock n Roll Alex. But before you give all your money to the NRA. Take a look at Mary’s website (www.ElectMaryHuls.com) and if she’s the kind of grassroots candidate you’re looking for; I’m sure any help would be greatly apprieciated in busting the local political machine. Note her opponent is a 10yr incumbent and our current State Senator had the job for 10yrs before him.

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  15. Dave Nalle Says:

    As I’m sue you’re aware, the situation in the GOP in Florida under Greer is almost unique. No other state party is being run in anywhere near as despotic, corrupt and incompetent a way. Greer has lost all credibility. Even the MSM in Florida has turned against him. I expect to see substantial changes within the Florida GOP before 2012. Our RLC chapter there is huge and although Greer may have screwed with some of them, there are just too many of them to suppress indefinitely.

    Dave

  16. ramparts360 Says:

    Just a note: I made a mistake about Alan Grayson – I thought he was a Republican – and based on that I made two comments. Now that I realize he is a Democrat I have deleted those comments from this thread.

    I apologize for any confusion my confusion has caused. Nevertheless, please keep your thoughts and opinions coming!

  17. Patrick M. Says:

    David Nalle nails it so well, I should just say – dittos 100%. but let me pile on a bit.

    “Everyone involved in this exchange is displaying remarkable arrogance and making basic mistakes in dealing with the other parties, which are exactly what perpetuates the legitimate problems which are raised in this exchange.”

    Key word on ‘everyone’.

    Mr Fuson had legitimate concerns because Mary was to him an ‘unknown quantity’ with a spotty voting record. I as a Republican primary voter would not even consider voting for a challenger to a GOP incumbent in the GOP primary, if that challenger never voted in a Republican primary. That to many of us in the GOP smells like a Democrat plant. He responded with pointed questions (and a hint of condescending comments) to smoke out if Mary was indeed on the the up and up.

    A candidate could rise to the challenge and pass the ‘test’ by pointing out their Bona Fides openly or get offended and make enemies. A serious vote-winning candidate makes friends not enemies.

    Thelma: “This to me tells us all exactly WHY our Country is in trouble and has been taken over by self serving individuals with money.”

    Actually it shows something quite different. It shows that people who are unknown quantities will be greeted with skepticism by both voters and those already ‘in the party’. It’s reality. It’s why even when incumbents are rotters they get re-elected 95% of the time. It shows politics gets unfortunately personal. It shows that it may be wiser to built yourself up to be ready to the battle on the next level rather than jump into race you’re not ready for.

    The precinct chairs questioned a candidate because they didn’t know who she is, saw she voted in only 2 of the previous 5 general elections and voted only in Democrat primaries previously and is running as a Republican. Against an incumbent Republican. They were suspicious. I would be too, given that set of facts.

    Perhaps they were wrong to be skeptical and even more wrong to be arrogant in their attitude about the candidate, but I know first-hand that Democrats have and even in this cycle are running trojan horse primary candidates. Special interest groups knock out good conservatives – I can give examples, for example the Teachers Unions getting behind RINO Diane Patrick who defeated a conservative state rep in a GOP primary and is now a pro-teachers-union anti-school-choice vote. I’d wager that most GOP primary voters had NO IDEA that was going on. You can only smoke out those candidates by asking very tough questions.

    That’s why Mr Fuson said… “We always welcome converts and newcomers, but I do believe that you might want to vote in our Party primary a time or two or assist some other person to run for office before you claim to be qualified to be the Party nominee in November election.”

    He is more or less telling her – Thanks for you activism, maybe you should help the party so we get to know you first before trying this. Is that wrong?

    Dave Nalle: “In addition, because she has shown no loyalty or even interest in the Republican party in the past, why should she expect the party to show an interest in or support her? It’s a political party, not some sort of support group for political malcontents.”

    Bingo! This person was a political unknown to these people. I have voted in EVERY general election and every GOP primary election in almost 20 years. Would I throw my support around someone who only figured out the importance of voting recently? NO! I would think “You know, this person may be qualified to be a State Rep, but they are less qualified than I am, maybe there is someone else who’s got more of a track record that I CAN TRUST.”

    Now, if Mary Huls knows hundreds of Republican primary voters and they trust her, or if she is willing to call/doorknock and get to know hundreds to thousands of such individuals, maybe she has a campaign … but if she thinks just putting a name up and NOT answering legitimate questions like raised by Mr Fuson, she is being naive and wrong.

    consider this from Mary’s husband: “However, in the last year, through our own activism and education, we have come to understand that the battle for our State and our country is not between the two parties – but between two idealologies. The idealologies are “progressivism” and “conservatism”.”

    It’s great he’s figured this out, but … IN THE LAST YEAR?!?!? I mean, God Bless you and all for figuring out that the real battle is indeed an ideological one – and the left/liberal/progressive side is trying to undermine the conservative/founders-vision/ordered-liberty arrangement … BUT JUST LAST YEAR!?!?
    … but this is something I personally figured out about 30 years ago when I was a teenager, something that almost everybody who is active in the Republican party has figured out for a long time. IT’S WHY WE ARE HERE AND WHY WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE! I bet its why Mr Fuson is there.

    We KNOW the score, we KNOW the stakes between the conservative vision of Reagan Republicans and the left-liberal-progressive vision of Obama Democrats, we UNDERSTAND far more than you might realize about what is actually going on and why it is NOT SO SIMPLE to just waltz in, say you believe in the kind of Government our founders intended, and sweep into office. (HINT: The enemy is not the grassroots Republican operatives who are 80-100% in agreement with what you espouse, the problem is that the left-liberals own the media, academia, foundations and other institutions, and are on a search-and-destroy mission for those who oppose their views; and in combination they have kept independent/moderate ‘sheeple’ in the dark as to the above realities of the real nature of the ideological battle.)

    The people asking the questions are only precinct chairs, not some remote moneyed elite, they are the most grassroots rung of the party, and while their tone was arrogant, a candidate’s the one who has to make the case.

    Thelma: “why it is so important that we not only fight the Democrats, but ALSO the Republicans. ”

    Fight them? So is your point to HURT the Republican party or IMPROVE the Republican party? If the first, then you have just proved Mr Fuson in the right. His concern was whether this candidate was a legitimate standard bearer who would end up hurting the GOP. He merely RAISED CONCERNS to that end. Appropriately so.

    If you are trying to win a Republican primary, those concerns have to be addressed. They wont be satisfied by attacking precinct chairs.
    If the goal is to fix a local party, then you are running in the wrong race – maybe running for precinct chair is a better step. For in attacking precinct chairs, you are in effect attacking Republican primary voters.

    Thelma says … “NO PARTY owns Us! We are free Independent Individuals who are blessed to call ourselves American.”
    … okaaaay, so why do you think you get to waltz into a local party and call the shots? People who ARE loyal to the Republican Party see it as a organization to effectively build a response to the big-govt left and maintain traditional values, liberties and form of govt.
    Building an organization takes time, effort, money, teamwork and a willingness to put ego aside. If you dont put any effort into building up
    the organization, and you say the organization doesn’t own or control your actions, and you attack the organization in many ways, why are your surprised if members of the organization view you with suspicion?

    Far better to have a ‘win friends and influence people’ approach:
    - The Republican party goals and platform and your goals and platform align
    - Most Republicans share your basic views on the role of Government
    - Thanks to having elected primary chairs, the Republican party in Texas is very grassroots oriented (Note to New Yorkers: It is quite different from New York!)
    - Flaws in the party are improvable via party activism and via running and winning primaries

    “This is why good people do not run.”
    It’s certainly true that politics aint bean bag or touch football and people running for office have to deal with a blizzard of negativity thrown at them. Maybe that is why we only end up with raging egomaniacs in office, because anyone else just gives up on the process. Nevertheless, blaming the GOP for the basic reality of how elections work is pointless. What this precinct chair said and did was a drop in an ocean compared to what Democrats throw at people. I have seen in recent weeks a friend get hit with vicious and unfair personal attacks from a leftie blog solely for getting in the arena.

    ” We must find a way to stop this kind of personal attack”
    you’d have to ban free speech.
    The ‘personal attack’ may be unfair but that’s nothing compared to the s***storm a democrat throws at republicans, and you need to vet candidates by finding out what their answer is to tough questions. It naive to think her vote in a Democrat primary wont be asked by curious voters.

    ” and let citizens vet the people who choose to run.”
    Um, that is EXACTLY what is happening here – the system ‘works’ by vetting candidates in a harsh way. When primary comes, he’s only one vote, just like everyone else who chooses to vote in the primary. Who in the end vets the Republican candidates? The Republican primary voter!
    If you have a problem with party precinct chairs, fine, you can go directly to the GOP primary voters and make your case!

    You cannot assume the system is corrupt just because the new gal on the ballot didnt get a warm welcome when running up against an incumbent in the same party. But if we want to have a better party, we need MORE vetting not less.

    Let me add one more thing – I find Mary’s statement genuine, heartfelt and in many ways thrilling:

    “I am a grassroots candidate; a “Constitutional Conservative Republican” candidate in the primary election. You both seem to have a problem with the fact that I am an unknown in the Harris County GOP circles. Alas, that is part of what makes me grassroots. I am part of the millions of American citizens that have been the silent majority for far too long. We see our country being transformed into
    something we don’t recognize as America any longer. However, we have awakened from our busy lives, taken time to notice what is really happening on a local, state and national level, educated ourselves,
    and have taken to the streets, airwaves, and internet. We are frightened for our country, our future, and for our children and grandchildren. I was born a free American, and that is how I intend to die.”

    This is awesome.

    However, by itself it does not make her qualified to be a State Representative, or the Republican standard-bearer for same. Her position on direct election of US Senators is frankly irrelevent as that office will have no power to effect any such change… meanwhile, all thes words wasted and NOTHING is said to answer the questions:
    - What makes you better or different than the incumbent Rep Davis?
    - Where do you stand on the issues facing the Texas lege NOW – voter ID, border enforcement, higher education funding, gross margins tax; school choice; Sen Patrick’s ultrasound bill; restraining SCHIP spending (or increasing it like Dems want), boondoggles for solar/wind; transportation gas tax, etc. ?

    Ultimately, THOSE are the issues that Mary will have to discuss to win voters.

    The desire expressed to ” I’m sure any help would be greatly apprieciated in busting the local political machine” begs the question of why any GOP primary voter would be REMOTELY interested in hurting a local ‘machine’ that is NOT the real threat to our liberties currently… and more to the point … if the problem IS the local party leadership and you dont like these precinct chairs who apparently are not behaving in the manner you think they should … then WHY NOT RUN FOR PRECINCT CHAIR OR GOP COUNTY CHAIR INSTEAD TO FIX THE PARTY?

    This gets fundamentally to David Nalle’s point:
    “But look. Long time GOPers are going to have to learn to work with enthusiastic grassroots activists and folks like Mary are also going to have to learn how to work with people like David Fuson if they want to achieve their goals. Alienating the precinct chairs in your district when you’re running for office is a sure way to end up going nowhere. Even if Mary sees David as part of the problem rather than part of the solution, if she wants to succeed as a Republican candidate then she needs to find a way to work with him.”

    Yup. We have to work together or we all lose.

    As we speak, the Democrats in Congress are passing the largest expansion of Government power, taxation and regulation in our history. We should realize that THAT is where the battle is being raged right now.
    The Republican party needs to work better with the ‘conservative independent’ activists and the ‘conservative independent’ activists need to work better with the Republican party ‘regulars’ if we are to succeed in pushing back against this massive shift toward greater Govt control that the Obama Democrats are engaged in. UNITED WE STAND and all that.

    • Thelma Taormina Says:

      Patrick,

      Gee….Where to start?! I guess I need to start by stating that anyone who can stand up for David Fuson needs to look into who this jackass is. His character is more in question to me than anyone else’s involved in this public attack on someone who did nothing but announce her campaign. He, along with all on that emailing, was invited to attend the event. If he had questions about her and who she was, he should have addressed them there, or in the event he could not attend, I would think that a private email with his concerns would have been appropriate. I cannot understand Republicans who will idly stand by and let the party continue to be what it has become. Do you think that the public will just let you all continue on like you are our saving grace from the Democrats? The Republican Party is just as responsible for the state our country is in and those who currently sit in ANY political seat need to wake up to the fact that the American People will no longer just follow along.
      Excuse us for questioning YOUR motives. While people need to vet all candidates, we no longer will trust the Republican nor the Democratic Parties to vet them for us. It is very apparent to us now, that all “status quo” politicians need to go, BEGINNING WITH THE PRECINCT CHAIRS! Your arguments for Fuson do not wash, obviously the man has NO Integrity! He has continued sending hateful, rude and arrogant emails addressing this issue. I for one am ignoring him. I only respond to you Patrick because I feel you are very flawed in some of your thinking and I hope that you and those who want to just accept the status quo will wake up and realize that this way of thinking is exactly what got us where we are…….Soon it will not matter what you think as that will be the limit of it. Thoughts they cannot silence, your voice is what they are after!

      God Bless & Protect Our Country
      and Our Constitution,
      Thelma Taormina
      Founder We The People
      Are The 9-12 Association, Inc.
      http://www.912membersusa.com
      http://www.wesurroundthemhouston.com

  18. Michael T. Barrett Says:

    well, I don’t live in Texas and do not have a dog in this fight. I live next door in Louisiana and thank God we just got a sentence for our latest corrupt legislator – 13 years. We have a long history of corruption here in Louisiana. It is a very difficult culture to change. It will be even more difficult at the federal level since the corruption is gigantic money and greed. These are the motivators for all the corruption – power and greed.
    I joined the local tea party team here in Louisiana and have to say it gives me energy to show up at a Senator’s local meeting especially enjoyed the confrontation with cabinet members visit with Mary Landrineaux. There is a new energy coming from the silent majority. The demographics of this movement cuts across age groups and education.
    My comment here is just to say to the Republican leaders in Texas that what I read above does not speak well for your Texas organization. People are tired of elite attitudes and arrogant leaders. We all get the process of vetting and answering tough questions. Why would you just pick up the phone and call the lady and talk to her directly and get her views directly. Email and letters are not good communication for the most part because there is no body language and people communicate in 3-D not in 1-D like you get from email and letters. Hope to see more of this lady Mary Huls even if it is at Starbucks. She is standing up and not giving in to the existing party admin. We saw in upstate NY of just how great local chairs are at picking candidates.
    Will continue to tune in here at Ramparts to keep up with the progress. Wishing all enlightenment and forgiveness of heart. That does not mean bending over on values and principles like we have seen from many Repubs.
    One last item – totally agree with Mary, we have to have term limits for all congress – two terms max for both house and senate. The seniority system for chairs is not working and needs serious reform.

  19. Debbie McKee Says:

    You go Thelma!!! I couldn’t have said it better myself. We battled this last time around and are so happy to have so many more join our ranks for this one!

  20. Thelma Taormina Says:

    Thanks Debbie….Still fighting it too! We will get there…..Our time has arrived we will stand for truth and FREEDOM!!!!!

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